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[Аrchangel]

Койот 15 Ноя 2009, 21:07

2 Аrchangel
АОРовскими наемниками:
Начни со строки {bodyguard_ere}Romanoi Bodyguards до {aor_arabian_nobles}Arabian Shiekhs. .

Итак нас уже четверо -- Бог даст, победим!

Что-то я никак таких не найду(да простят боги мою слепоту).
Если можно,ссыль дай

З.Ы.Победим,обязательно победим

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Labi Bust 15 Ноя 2009, 21:20

Договорились. Пусть будет неделя на всякий случай, хотя тут работы часа на полтора-два, не больше. Когда сделаю - отпишусь...

Ну,не у всех же есть эти 2 часа.Особенно после учебы или работы.

[Labi Bust]

To Аrchangel. Это точно, просто я из Киева, тут у нас трехнедельные каникулы в универе из-за карантина, поэтому времени свободного хватает...

[Komtur]

Хех.. Как перевести Poulain в частности Poulain Men-at-Arms?

[Аrchangel]

Польские (мужчины)-гвардейцы
итого-Польские гвардейцы)

[Komtur]

К сожалению поляк - это Pole. Или ты имел ввиду что-то другое?
Но

Аrchangel 16 Ноя 2009 16:05

Польские гвардейцы)

[Labi Bust]

Извините что влажу в разговор, но Poulain - по-французски это "жеребенок" и в контексте перевода возможно означают "молодые, юные" или другой вариант - "рыцари на молодых конях (жеребятах)" (???). Первый вариант мне кажется предпочтительнее...

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А нет, сорри, вот позырыл в вики, там сказано: "В Среднем веке, называем жеребят Франками, устроенными или родившимися на Востоке или индивидами, рожденными от крестообразного отца и от восточной матери." (перевод транслейт.ру)
Короче, судя по всему, это французы, родившиеся на востоке или от отца-христианина и восточной матери", полукровки, в общем...

[Аrchangel]

Komtur 16 Ноя 2009, 17:13

К сожалению поляк - это  Pole.  Или ты имел ввиду что-то другое?

Да тут только какие-то Пульские гвардейцы
назови "Молодая Гвардия"

[Койот]

2 Аrchangel
Вот тебе кусок про Наемников(ч.1):

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{bodyguard_ere}Romanoi Bodyguards
{bodyguard_ere_descr}Early E.Roman Bodyguards were the elites. Their names would vary but not their function. They had been called ?Athanatoi? or ?Excurbitores? before that. Not much more is needed for those horsemen. They were chosen among the best of Kataphraktoi or maybe even foreign mercs to wear besides the ?esolorikon? ? inch thick padded gambeson, an extra ?lorikion? chain mail or scale armor hauberk up to their face, sometimes a ?klibanion? lamellar armor cuirass over it and on top of that an ?epilorikion? (quilted cloth armor gambeson designed to absorb blunt trauma, like that of a mace). They wear reinforced iron helmets with iron scale aventails and have small iron circular shoulder protectors. They identified themselves by tufts of hair on their armour and tufenk in their helmets.They also wore outmoded pieces of equipment, as the ancient ?pteryges? leather strips which protected the genitals. A proud sign of Hellenic and Ancient Roman heritage, and another sign of distinction. A gorget protects the neck made of mail or less likely scale. They carry a reinforced kite shield with the ?kontarion? lance on the other hand. They also carry a ?spathion? longsword, 36in long (excluding the hilt) and hung at the left hip. Their forearms are protected by ?cheiropsella? interlocking lamellar pieces. Lower feet would be protected by ?podopsella? interlocking lamellar pieces as well. Their horses are barded in the finest iron lamellar the ironsmiths of the E. Roman empire can muster. Their battle role if needed would be that of lancers, either creating or exploiting a break in the enemy line. This unit?s ultimate role, however, is the protection of the royalty entrusted to its keep, and since Komnenoi are known for their reckless assaults on the enemy that task is very hard. It is absolutely essential that this martial tradition remains however as historically emperor Manuel was selected by his father over his older brother Isaakios, for his prowess in battle. He couldn?t have been half as brave without selected heavy horsemen guarding him. Historically, the heavy horsemen bodyguards were one of the most ancient elite cavalry troops of ERE. They are heavily armed, not different than the Kataphraktoi or Klibinarioi of earlier line troops, but in some minor details. First Hellenic state to have fielded them more than 1400 years before was the Kingdom of Baktria, followed suit by Seleukeides when Antiochos III nearly lost his life fighting them in Arrius river. Then he used Kataphraktoi horsemen to form his very own bodyguard. Romani fielded heavy numbers of Kataphraktoi to counter Parthian then Sassanid Grivnavpar. ERE Kataphraktoi and their fights with their Sassanid counterparts were the stuff of legend in their time. No emperor would dare fight without his kataphraktoi bodyguards. Despite the power of their devastating charge, and their zeal in protecting their Emperor, the blitzkrieg of Arab light cavalry, and the dire straits of the empire at the time, pushed them into extinction as a fighting unit, with lighter cavalry taking over their role. Ioannis Tzimiskes must have re-established them in the 9th and 10th century amidst the great ERE counterattack on all fronts which pushed the boundaries of Roman domain into present day Armenia and Iraq and reclaiming the Balkans, Cyprus and Crete for the empire. Post Manzikert their numbers were devastated, and nearly brought to end when the ?Athanatoi? heavy cavalry (another name for the Early bodyguard ) were killed to a man trying to stop the Normans in the time of the first Komnenos emperor. Still Manuel, was made an Emperor because of his prowess in battle, and some Kataphraktoi horsemen like those of the Early bodyguard who kept him alive. As such, their role remains unchanged in the battlefield.
{bodyguard_ere_descr_short}The best heavy horsemen of the empire guard their Emperor. Defenders of ERE tradition, their role in battle would be to guard the emperor or die trying.

{oman_swordsmen_mercs}Omani Mercenaries
{oman_swordsmen_mercs_descr}Omani swordsmen were originally used to solve disputes between tribes in ?Rahza? or competition. The ?Rahza? featured a poetry contest, sword dance and most importantly, duels. With the Omani straightsword, or Kattara, and the rhino horn shield, two duelists would fight to the death to solve tribal quandaries. The warriors were highly prized, and they spent most of their time perfecting their art and honing their skills. Once the tribes were unified, however, they became invaluable swordsmen. They are specialists in the military sense and should not be taken for granted.
{oman_swordsmen_mercs_descr_short}Light mobile swordsmen, lacking in staying power but strong on the offensive or in support of more solid allies.

{bado_camels}Bado Camel Archers
{bado_camels_descr}The camel archer is a staple soldier in any army of the Middle East, Africa and Asia. The camel can go for days without rest, and with the ability to hit anywhere and the endurance to bypass troops, this makes for a very valuable asset indeed. Armed with bow and Kattara, the nomadic Bado are invaluable to any army. Living in the barren desert gives these camel nomads a fierce composition and hearty endurance. Used correctly, these masters of the desert can halt any form of enemy.
{bado_camels_descr_short}Hearty medium camel-riders with bow and sword, whose lack of shield and disinclination towards melee-combat is augmented by enemy horse?s dislike of the camel.

{levy_in_axemen_mercs}Sindhi Axemen
{levy_in_axemen_mercs_descr}?A symbol of sacrifice, bravery, and industry?, thus spoke the God Shiva of the Hindu faith of the Jat peoples in the Sanskrit Hymns known as the Deva Samita. Believed by most to be descendants of the original Indo-Aryan invaders mixed with the later Sakae and Kushans, the Jats have been amongst the oldest of the natives to Sindh. While blood-brothers to the Rajputs, while their brethren hail entirely from the Kshatriya caste, the Jats contain a multitude of Shudra or Vaishya peasants, known for being both hard-working farmers and diligent warriors albeit without the proud origins of Jat or Rajput Kshatriya. Though their ancestrial origin may lie in the lands of the Oxus, the colorful story of the Jat people is one well woven into the sands of the Indus, having established themselves from the mouth of that mighty river to Purushapura in the northwest since ancient times. From this nurturing womb have they spread into Northern and Central India, the fall of their Kushan ancestors allowing countless Jat kingdoms to rise from their ashes. Though strongest in the realm between Multan and Makran, amongst the darkness engulfing the subcontinent after the Kushan empire fractured and the Gupta?s centuries later the Jat Kingdoms dotted the land as numerously as the stars above, reaching from the lower Sindh to Rajasthan and beyond. Yet theirs was not a legacy found only in the lands around the Indus, for as Persian and Arab clashed following the death of Muhammad, Jats were found in the ranks of the Sassanids, becoming amongst the first of the people of India to take to the new faith of Islam upon capture by the Arabs. The Near East over had respect for the industrious nature and sturdy constitution of these Jats, the conquering Rashidun Caliphate deporting many of Sindh to lands as far afield as Iraq and Antioch to populate lands diminished by the vicious Romano-Persian wars. While the Jats may make a name for themselves as makers and wielders of the sword, far more prefer the very same weapon on foot as on horseback ? the nachakh heavy axe. Without armor, it is courage and the virtues of the Kshatriya warrior-caste that these men rely upon. Despite their shortcomings in armor, they are a proud people and are willing to take as much to the frontline fight against better-armored foes as to sweep around the flank and descend like stalking panther upon those like wolves of the Hindu Kush.
{levy_in_axemen_mercs_descr_short}Unarmored Axemen, lacking in staying power but swift of foot and good of spirit. Best utilized as light aggressive infantry, or in support of heavier allies.

{armenia_light_jav_cav}Aspatak Skirmishers
{armenia_light_jav_cav_descr}These light horsemen are excellent for screening the enemy lines and harassing oncoming enemies with a hail of javelins. Men raised from the villages of Anatolia they are hardy and swift, and are excellent for running down lighter foes but do not expect them to hold up much of a fight against heavier cavalry or infantry.
{armenia_light_jav_cav_descr_short}Horse javelineers, light in armor but very experienced in the throw of javelin. They are usually the first to engage the enemies of Armenia.

{armenia_jav}Shinakan Skirmishers
{armenia_jav_descr}Those militiamen are very good with their javelins. Drafted into the army they are armed in just their plain clothes, a small leather or wooden shield and plain iron helmet when available, is their only means of armor. Their best protection however is to move up to the enemy fire off their javelins and back out again, before the enemy missile troops or cavalry returns the favor. Heavily outclassed by better and further shooting archers, those militiamen have to fight against unfavorable odds. Even if they aren?t the most valuable troop in the Armenian arsenal, their position in the battleline is vital. Used in both the preliminary phase of the battle, but also to weaken a potential breakthrough point for the heavy cavalry to charge through, javelin men are a cheap unit, whose usefulness is much greater than its value. Historically, they were skirmishing javeling throwing troops. Not ever fighting on their own but complimenting a larger force or army. While they are useful, they are not soldiers and in the first sign of trouble, they will break. A wise commander should know this limit and not stray beyond it.
{armenia_jav_descr_short}Javelin throwing skirmishers, who should be recalled once they unleash their javelins at the enemy.

{aux_arab_archer}Ahdath Bowmen
{aux_arab_archer_descr}Men of city, town or village being mobilized for war have existed on the battlefield as long as there were sedentary communities from which conscripts could be levied. Their worth has varied, from the highly regarded citizen-hoplites of Greece to men given spear and shield and thrust off to the battlefield amongst the despots of the East./n/nAs the use of foreign troops in lieu of native citizenry has grown in fashion amongst Islamic and particularly Arab Dynasties, the martial practices of the middle and lower class Arab inhabitants of cities and villages has come to atrophy. While their bedouin kin and aristocratic brethren able to afford the military training expected of a gentleman, those for whom the monotony of day to day civilized affairs have come to dominate their minds hold little room for the exploitation of martial skill beyond whimsical reverence of legendary warriors and individual skill necessary in the streets or on the caravan roads./n/nAnd yet some martial practice persists in the form of the Ahdath, essentially the militia of Arab cities within Egypt, Palestine and Syria and Mesopotamia. Their training and dedication vary within neighborhood, district and city, but they are certainly better armed and trained than many of their militia contemporaries. While the Prophet Muhammad espoused the value of marksmanship with the bow, the ranks of the Ahdath's bowmen tend towards those of rural or traveling background in sheperding, caravan or ship travel for whom use with the bow is more intimate.
{aux_arab_archer_short}Conscripted unarmored archers best served in providing additional firepower by sheer merit of cheap, plentiful numbers.

{param_spearmen}Samvita Senya
{param_spearmen_descr}(Armored Spearmen)Martial traditions have come to change in the realm of the Indus and Ganges, with the emergence of horsemanship first under the Guptas and now threatening to overwhelm the subcontinent with the thunderous clamor of Rajput-Muslim battles in the north illustrating a marked change from the long-held traditions of charioteering and the dominance of the elephant. Spearmen have been another such casuality, making up a bulk of the army alongside archers and elephants in the times of old, yet quickly falling out of favor amongst many of the northern Hindu kingdoms who take to motivated, highly aggressive ranks of swordsmen instead. A strange choice given the emerging dominance of the horsemen, but the humble and reliable spearmen has yet to give up and go the way of the chariot.
/n/nContrasting the shapeless hording ranks of unarmored, levied peasants and lower-castes given a spear and animal-skinned shield and thrust onto the battlefield with nothing in the shape of training, these spearmen are drawn from the mid to lower ranks of Kshatriya. Those who can afford some armor, even if largely the soft quilted cotton shirts and vests long having been the most-common sort of armor in India, and choose to forgo the sword or bow for lack of training or experience in it field instead the spear and shield. As semi-trained warriors they may lack when it comes to the staying power or offensive strength of their martial noblemen brethren, yet in expectations of being common, reliable and effective light-medium spearmen these men do not disappoint.
{param_spearmen_descr_short}Lightly armored Spearmen of decent training and motivation.

{bodyguard_paramaras}Nagavarika's Guard
{bodyguard_paramaras_descr}(Royal Elephant's Guard)Astride the largest, strongest and most regal of Nagavarika, the royal elephants, the very closest family of the Paramara's Maharaja serve in battle. With an everlasting ambition to fulfill their holy oath as Kshatriya to live and die by the battlefield, these warriors wield heavy javelins so that there might be no excuse for their elephants to linger away from the thick of battle.
{bodyguard_paramaras_descr_short}The Armored elephants of the Royal family of the Paramara Raj, whose occupants strike forth with heavy javelins like lightning from the sky.

{param_champ_eleph_archer}Nagavarika Saravani
{param_champ_eleph_archer_descr}(Royal Elephant Archers)Astride Nagavarika, the royal elephants, these elite kshatriya archers reign death upon their foes while their regal steeds thunder about like mountains brought to life. The Howdah has long been a throne upon that most regal of Indian animals upon which the most prestigious of the Kshatriya class do battle. As elephants of the Paramara's own royal lineage, they are afforded quality armor along their flanks and limb's and are exceptionly capable in charging the enemy's line while those atop slew the enemy as mighty Arjuna had upon his chariot.
{param_champ_eleph_archer_descr_short}Astride Nagavarika, the royal elephants, these elite kshatriya archers reign death upon their foes while their regal steeds thunder about like mountains brought to life.

{aux_religinf}Mutatawwi'a Warriors
{aux_religinf_descr}Beyond weaponry, beyond circumstance, beyond individual martial skill or that of their whole, it was the motivation and courage possessed by the ranks of the faithful which led their victories over the pagan Meccans and fellow Arabs under Muhammad, and much of the known world under the Rashidun Caliphs. This passion to serve as they saw God's will took men of only a nomad's discipline to battle and best the mighty nations of Persia and Rome, and would remain instilled however deep and buried in the hearts of all who practiced the one true faith./n/nThe will of God and passage of time has seen for the decline of the Caliph's might at the hand of more secular and aristocratic regime's rises, with those driven by faith lying in slumber while men delivered to the fields of battle by greed, vain glory, or obedience to mortals take to the ranks of the Dar al-Islam's armies. At last, with the shock of the Frank's invasions of the Holy Lands rousing the sleeping lion of Islam to a vengeful alertness has drawn upon the horn to call the faithful to battle./n/nWhile many religious volunteers come bursting of faith but with little discipline and tools from which to achieve God's desires, the ranks of the Mutatawwi'a swell with veterans of battling infidel, heretic, or even fellow Muslim. Those who can afford mail, lamellar and quilted armor, who come into possession of stout iron-skinned shield and sturdy spear, form brotherhoods which ply their service for any pious Muslim ruler. Valuable men these are, motivated as well as their are adorned and armed, willing to pursue the will of the Almighty nothing short of victory or their own demise.
{aux_religinf_descr_short}Well armored and highly motivated religious volunteers of military experience, participating in the age old tradition of the Jihad in defense of the Dar al-Islam.

{aor_arabian_camelriders}Bedouin Camel Riders
{aor_arabian_camelriders_descr}Though time has come to let first the Khorasanis and later the Turks dominate Islamic martial society, Arabs retain a military importance especially amongst the Ayyubids, Abbasids and naturally the Omani for whom they make up the majority of their ranks. Yet for the former two dynasties it is largely Arabs of city and village and not the ancestral livelihood which marked the birth of their Islamic faith who fight for Sultan and Caliph./n/nMartial passions have not left the Bedouin of the desert, rather respect for their military skills have, yet for those powers neighboring the great deserts east of the Jordan river, south of Mesopotamia and east of coastal Syria, a respect has grown for those bedouin who use the reliable, enduring camel as a beast of war as well as of burden. Despite misconception, the camel's accomplishments during the rise of Islamic hegemony were not truly that of a mounted beast in battle, but more a means of infantrymen and supplies to travel quickly through the desert. Never the less, these bedouin wielding bow and sword fight masterfully in their native desert.
{aor_arabian_camelriders_descr_short}Stoic, indominitable light camelry wielding bow and sword.

{aor_arabian_nobles}Arabian Shiekhs
{aor_arabian_nobles_descr}Though time has come to let first the Khorasanis and later the Turks dominate Islamic martial society, Arabs retain a military importance especially amongst the Ayyubids, Abbasids and naturally the Omani for whom they make up the majority of their ranks. Yet for the former two dynasties it is largely Arabs of city and village and not the ancestral livelihood which marked the birth of their Islamic faith who fight for Sultan and Caliph./n/nMartial passions have not left the Bedouin of the desert, rather respect for their military skills have, yet for those powers neighboring the great deserts east of the Jordan river, south of Mesopotamia and east of coastal Syria, a respect has grown for the doughty light horsemen of the desert steppe. Tribal Aristocrats not only by birth but by wizened experience and knowledge, the sheiks of the nomadic Bedouin offer their services as nimble light cavalry, wielding the javelin and sword. Not content will they be to simply skirmish, but rather throw their weapons from afar before closing in to display their skill with the sword.
{aor_arabian_nobles_descr_short}Drawn from the ranks of older, more experienced elders of the tribes of Arabia, they wield javelin and sword as skilled raiding horsemen.

2 Komtur

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Как перевести Poulain

Это Пулены(этот термин есть даже в переводах французской поэзии) -- так крестоносцы называли прижившихся на Св. Земле со времен 1-го КП христиан-выходцев с Западной Европы. Крестоносцы приходили и уходили, а пулены селились основательно.

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Койот, через файлобменник.

Глянь в свой приват -- в паку SEND(отправленные) -- возможно там в одном из писем Эргисталу и будет ссылка. Если будет -- проверь: она рабочая, и вышли мне в личку.

[Аrchangel]

Да я уже скачал файл и перевожу))

[Komtur]

Койот
Я смотрел, в папке send уже нет того письма.. Если память не изменяет, я там переводил про всяких пуштунов, лашкаров, кшатриев. Я к тому, что если тот перевод пропал, то я бы его мог восстановить.
P.S. спасибо за подсказку!

Labi Bust 16 Ноя 2009 16:30

Poulain - по-французски это "жеребенок"

угумс, собственно это меня и поставило в тупик.